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As the western U.S. burns and the Gulf Coast recovers from yet another hurricane, But Next Time, lifts up powerful narratives of collective action that are transforming how communities prepare for and respond to climate-fueled natural disasters.

Episode 3: Rising Waters

No matter where we come from, or how much money we make, we all deserve a safe and healthy place to call home. In this episode we meet parents who are fighting to save their families’ homes despite a perfect storm of  greedy landlords and hurricane-related flooding. Jaime, a mom who lives in subsidized housing in Houston Texas, joins with other moms to stand up to landlords and local officials whose policies and practices have kept working-class Black and Brown families trapped in moldy and unsafe homes for years. Before and after Hurricane Harvey, Jaime and organizers in Houston come together to take collective action and push for change. Along the way they connect with leaders in Puerto Rico who have also been resisting and re-building in the wake of ongoing disaster. We hear from renowned  Puerto Rican activist and former political prisoner Oscar Lopez Rivera,Luis O. Gallardo Rivera, director of Centro para la Reconstrucción del Hábitat and Adriana Godreau, director of Ayuda Legal Puerto Rico, who along with our host Chrishelle Palay engage in on the ground work and advocacy in their communities, in the halls of Congress, and beyond. Whether they are educating their communities, building back power grids, or bringing their fight to the courtroom, these community leaders are working together to shape the healthier future we all deserve. Join us to hear their stories as they work tirelessly to ensure that next time will be different.

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Episode 2: From the Ashes

Continue delving into community-rooted responses to disaster in California, from the fires to the pandemic. You’ll hear about how people banded together to build mutual aid networks, translate emergency messages in Spanish and indigenous languages, and disseminate crucial recovery information to their communities. In Sonoma County organizers hit the fields with information about where to get food, shelter, and support. In San Francisco they set up a strong response to COVID-19 in the city’s Mission District. Tune in and hear how these leaders act collectively to confront those in power, work for justice before and after disaster, and together answer one vital question: how can next time be different?

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Episode 1: Toward the Fire

As fires ravaged California's world-famous wine country in 2017, a community radio station, emergency dispatcher, and tenant organizers helped the most vulnerable in their community survive and recover. Community organizers and hosts of But Next Time, Chrishelle Palay and Rose Arrieta, bring us the first of four stories of hard-won lessons learned from people on the frontlines of California’s wildfires and Texas’ storms as they work to answer the question, how can next time be different?

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But Next Time is a four-part, limited-run podcast that features stories of language justice, tenant organizing, pandemic response and more, all led by the people for the people. Listen as courageous individuals step up to serve their communities, from a beloved radio host broadcasting crucial information in Spanish while the Tubbs fire engulfed Sonoma, to moms fighting for housing justice in flooded Houston after Hurricane Harvey. They also demand change from those in power to make sure that the next time a climate-fueled disaster strikes, it will be different.

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